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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2014.10.30 17:47:51 -
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Awoxers, like suicide gankers, tend to be the not-so-bright players that want easy mode, risk free game play.
While I see nothing wrong with having a mechanic that allows room for the stupid to have a place in EVE, there needs to be consequences for their actions (A basic tenet of this game). Ganking has those consequences and fulfills the requirements of balanced gameplay. Awoxing, as it stands now, does not.
I'm fine with the proposed changes.
Mr Epeen 
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2014.10.30 19:34:56 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
"THOU SHALT PROTECT THE SANDBOX FROM THE CAREBEAR INFIDELS, LEST YE BE CAST INTO LAKES OF FIRE AND GNAWED ON BY KILLER RABBITS WITH BIG SHARP POINTY TEETH".
Phoebe.
'nuff said.
Mr Epeen
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2014.10.30 19:42:46 -
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Syn Shi wrote:La Nariz wrote:Mike Azariah wrote:Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes
-walt witman
personally I had issue when Concord popped me when I was running an incursion and ignored the Sansha.
Yeah, It doesn't all make sense but that does not preclude me from liking it when it does.
m The issue with concord is that it exists in the first place. I don't know about you but I think Goons have done a better job at removing pvp from the game than ccp or carebears have. Just look at Null.
Most Goons are carebears. Just like the rest of null.
Mr Epeen
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2014.10.31 02:25:57 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Kaarous, what stops you from joining a low/null corp and awoxing them there? Just a curiosity.
I would guess fear is his problem with that.
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2014.10.31 12:59:43 -
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Sol Project wrote:What Jenn is saying in that little box, is that idiots will always stick to what they believe is right and will ignore everything that shows that they are wrong, because being wrong hurts their vulnerable little egos and they can't deal with that.
Thinking is Slavery.
Ignorance is Strength.
That's a bit generic. While true, it applies to almost every single player (and their chosen dogma) that logs into the game. Jenn included.
It's not that they are idiots. It's that they are passionate about the narrow little niche they have chosen in this big, big universe. I respect them for fighting for their chosen playstyle, even though most of them are completely wrong.
Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2014.10.31 14:13:12 -
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Sol Project wrote:Good Posting Reloaded wrote:Sol Project wrote:Good Posting Reloaded wrote:High sec should be safer for new players, and since many old players are too scared of leaving the kiddie pool and they continue ******* with newbies, ccp is hitting their butt with a stick because they have been very very bad boys. Now the supposed bad boys are whining like the true pussies thay always have been.
Post with your main, so we can kick his ass. I post with the account i please, and by the way, you never left high sec so i doubt you would come to hunt me where i am. Stay in high sec like the true shitlord you are, mr big mouth. Calling others wannabe tough guys, while running such a big mouth and hiding behind an alt. And you probably realise the irony, but as you hide you can post hatefull crap all you want.
Forum alts calling out forum alts?
Must be Friday.
Mr Epeen
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2014.10.31 15:00:36 -
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I can't help but compare this thread to many like it in the past about mechanic changes. CCP changes mechanics when they become so commonplace that everyone is 'abusing' it. When they become disruptive to the average player as opposed to the elite forum warriors.
Ghost training, nano HACs, greifing noobs in starter systems, greifing noobs in tutorials and many more. It's a long list but those few examples jump to mind.
CCP is stuck here. It's their game and they have an interest in keep it viable for all players. Not the just the elite who can jump to another game once their selfish gameplay destroys the player base of this one. They don't make these changes without giving it a lot of thought. It's their RL corporate ass on the line if they make the wrong call. They have everything to lose if the screw up (read, Incarna).
I'm going to trust CCP on this way more than a bunch of asshats with no vested interest in whether this game survives or not. CCP have made some major blunders in the past, but I believe they learned from them and I like the direction this game is going. Not just making awoxing have consequences, but the overall thought they are putting into bringing the fun back into the game. Many players are happy with the stagnation we've seen over the last while and are satisfied with their little empires that add nothing to the game but entitlement and maintaining the status quo. But CCP is not.
That's a good thing for CCP and EVE.
Mr Epeen
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2014.10.31 16:19:22 -
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Darth Schweinebacke wrote:
Also if you think this will prevent awoxing then you are not thinking this through.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised at how quickly Quote:CCP Masterplan - We're looking at changing three things before the end of the year. First is the intra-corp aggression rules - At the moment all members can now freely aggress each other. We are looking to change this so that being in the same member corp does not give you the right to legally kill your corp mates. The main goal of this is to make recruitment safer for the recruiter and the recruitee. And it will remove the fact that you current cannot mitigate the risk of recruiting someone which makes people not recruit.
Gets turned into, "Wah! CCP is going to remove awoxxing! I quit/ unsub/ hate CCP etc."
Do people even read stuff before going off the deep end?
Whatta meesa sayin? Of course they don't.
Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2014.10.31 16:31:08 -
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Darth Schweinebacke wrote:How does me saying that this does not prevent awoxing equal "Wah! I am going to quit Eve?".
You're right. Now fixed.
Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2014.10.31 16:45:41 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Revis Owen wrote:Nerfing intra-corpmate aggression is a bad idea.
Keep EvE harsh. Intead of more hand-holding for risk-averse players, their hand should be patted gently, they should be looked in the eye, and they should be told EvE is just not the game for them. BUT BUT, they (the people who don't belong and who won't even stay if you 100% carebear thempark this game) have money, and money is obviously more important than the integrity and spirit of the game! Don't you know nothin? 
Shooting fish in a barrel is about as themepark as it gets.
Undocking in a barge is about 100x more risky than sitting on a gate in a ship that is replaced for free after you shoot a target with no guns. Or ratting deep in the blue of null. Or killing corpies with zero consequence.
The most risk averse whiners in this forum are the very people that claim to want the harsh and dangerous unverse. Except when it concerns them, I guess.
Mr Epeen
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2014.10.31 19:12:44 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The criminal element in highsec has adapted to every other nerf that they've hit with, they'll adapt to this one too.
I hope so.
The only thing that will happen is the one thing we all agree on. EVE weeds out the morons that can't adapt.
A good percentage will stop awoxing as they are too stupid to work with an unbroken mechanic. Many pathetics in this thread have actually threatened to quit over having to deal with a little risk and consequence. We don't need or want people like that in the game.
The smart ones will figure it out and continue to be criminal thorns in the side of of high sec corporations.
This is how it should be in our EVE.
Mr Epeen
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2014.10.31 21:26:28 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:
But anyhow, let's stick to the topic here - awoxx changes, not the moral worth of CODE.
To be honest, until Kaarous logs back on with his threats to quit and various other amusing postings, I prefer the CODE meltdown over the awoxing drama.
Mr Epeen
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2014.11.01 02:24:39 -
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Forty pages for this little thing, and there's a long list of little things left to fix. Good times indeed for those of us that like forum drama.
The real fun, though, is when CCP tackles the big things. Now that's what makes being a card carrying member of the forum alt club worth the years invested in this place.
Let me just say right now that my life would be a little less fulfilling if all the forumites that threaten to quit in virtually every thread actually did. But we know that will never happen. And I thank my maker every day for that.
Mr Epeen
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2014.11.01 21:12:17 -
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Well...this thread has almost run its course.
You can always tell because the people backed into a corner start with the bizarro outlier examples of why the change is a bad thing. "This one in a million thing happened once to this one person this one time, so we need to keep the mechanic. You just never know when it might happen again and then you'll all be sorry!"
Until the next thread, I bid you all adieu.
Mr Epeen
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